The department of tortured poets is perhaps the newest album Jack Antonoff worked with Taylor Swiftbut it has quickly become one of his favorites.
The music producer, 40, said TIME that he learned “so much” while working on Swift’s eleventh studio album in an interview published on Tuesday, October 1. “Every album we’ve done together, I’ve learned so much,” Antonoff said. “That was just the ultimate for me. It fluctuates so much emotionally that I felt like it was really what it’s like to be alive right now.
He further noted, “So often people just put things out there that are definitive. Right now it’s like, “I’m hurt, I’m angry, I’m loving,” “I’m angry, I’m happy, I’m hateful.” That album – because it’s this crazy journey of love, love lost, betrayal and pain, and then even the escapism chapter with ‘Florida!!!’ that’s one of my favorite parts – I see it as our opus. It’s a whirlwind. It was a whirlwind making it. That’s why I like it so much.”
Swift, 34, announced TTPD at the 2024 Grammys in February, where she accepted the award for Album of the Year Midnights next to Antonoff. The pair first worked together on Swift’s 2014 album, 1989and have gone on to collaborate on each of her subsequent records, including Reputation, Lover, Folklore, Always, Midnights And TTPD. Antonoff has also served as producer for Swift’s first four re-recorded albums (also known as Taylor’s Versions): Fearless, Red, Speak now And 1989.
Antonoff told the outlet that “the only real goal in making an album is to capture the feeling of the moment,” adding, “For me, it takes about a year for an album to establish itself in the place where it is actually alive and not just buzzing. But I learned a lot. I had to write a little bit, even in my own stuff, switching in and out of emotions a little more, like you would in their heads.
Referring to TTPDhe stated:[The album] quickly moves into another emotional territory, which I think is the way many of us live. I think that’s why so many people listen to it.”
TTPD has broken several records since its release in April, becoming the best-selling album of 2024, the most streamed album in a single week across multiple platforms, and spending multiple weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart.
“I love this album more than I can say… I love you all so much,” Antonoff tweeted in celebration of TTPD‘s drop. “More later, very overwhelmed…I love you Taylor.”
A month later, Swift added a new segment for the album to her record-breaking setlist Eras tour.
Swift, who will play her final Eras tour show in Canada in December, has yet to reveal what her next project will be. According to Antonoff, he is as clueless as Swifties.
“I never know until we do it. I don’t really plan on it,” he said of their next collaboration. “Everything always happens in the moment in the room. I can have thoughts and feelings of, “This would be cool, that would be cool,” but I always find it clouds my understanding of where they stand.
The Bleachers frontman fueled rumors of an upcoming project last month by sharing a post Instagram photo of him and Swift working with producer Sound wave. Although the photo was dated December 2023, Swifties pointed out that Sounwave, 38, was not included in the photo. TTPDseemingly indicating that they were working on something else at the time. (Sounwave was credited as producer for several songs on Swift’s Midnights album, released in 2022.)